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• Friday, October 02, 2009

  Marta Guerra

  Dear Jana,

  thank you for telling it like it is.

  I wrote here before that this article is a very good and down to earth account of Michael’s humanity. (I will not repeat myself on that).

  I totally disagree with many comments here that Rabbi Shmuley exposes Michael’s secrets on this article. And reading it line by line, it doesn’t. And if people are going about scolding Rabbi Schmuley, they should at least be factly and precise.

  Yes he does criticize MJ, even if he was his friend. I usually say that I have two types of friends, those who simpathise with my complaints even when I make the worse choices, and those who give me a true independent judgement and are not just trying to pick me off the ground. I appreciate both very much and both are necessary.
  Rabbi Schmuley, as hardly as I know him (only from books, blog and youtube) is of the second type. He confronted MJ. If he wanted to abuse his trust, it would be too easy. He just had to keep MJ amused for whatever reason he asked to meet with Rabbi Schmuley in the first place. Thats what a lot of people around MJ did, wasn’t it?
  Rabbi Schmuley was shut off by MJ because we was a friend whose judgement was uncompromising and most certainly inconvenient.

  Whether some of Michael’s fans like it or not, Michael appears to bond with Schmuley in some special way.
  Of course he bonded deeply with other people who were able to accept him (mostly women) but the relationship was certainly different and those people will never be willing nor able to share it with the world and their knowledge will die with them.
  Maybe that’s the fairest for Michael, but it basically reduces his vast human complexity just to a great performer with money for odd tastes (even his last interview ended up not being able to go far beyond this portrait. Anyways it was pretty clear in that interview that he wanted to open up about himself at least on some subjects of his life).

  So if people want to go beyond diamond gloves and uniforms and fancy moves, get over it and learn what MJ thought about the weightier matters of life.

  About the tapes: I have never heard them and know nothing of their content. But if they had such outrageous revelations wouldn’t they be all over the news about the shocking revelations by now ?

  Best Regards,
  Marta Guerra

• Saturday, October 03, 2009

  Jana

  Thank you for backing me up on this Marta. And to the poster who asked,” What has Rabbi Schmuley done to help Michael heal”? He tried to give his life meaning & direction in the later years with the speeches on ‘Parenting & Children’. This was to be a ‘tour’ so to speak, where Michael would give a number of these speeches over a long period of time. As I understand it, Michael would become so anxious that he would take anti-anxiety medications(a lot of them) before the speeches & Rabbi Schmuley became very annoyed with this behavior. What else did the rabbi do? He attempted to give MJ an outlet for his emotions & provided much ‘one on one’ counseling! We should all be so lucky as to have the ear of a counselor on a ‘one on one’ basis! I love MJ as much as the next fan but my perception of him is not ‘colored’ by only the great things he did in his life. I believe he clearly squandered this opportunity that was afforded him by the rabbi. It is a well known fact that if you were ‘in MJ’s fold’, you were only there as long as you didn’t rub him the wrong way & once you were out? You were WAY OUT. He didn’t like hearing things that he did NOT want to hear. I would have loved to have heard what he had to say about child-rearing but unfortunately, due to his addiction, all we are left with is the Oxford speech. MJ had SO much potential but allowed his fear’s & his demons to overrun his life. He was ‘on the right track’ with Rabbi Schmuley & this I believe afforded him an immensely cathartic experience & it may very well have helped keep him with us as long as he was.We are only as ‘sick as our secrets’. To suggest that MJ did not want his childhood trauma exposed is ridiculous. He exposed it with Oprah & Bashir. Many here should look on You Tube at the MANY interviews he has given & listen closely. It’s all there & all of the info given voluntarily on MJ’s part. In many ways, I wish the rabbi had released this book BEFORE MJ’s death. It would have given the world (and particularly the media) an opportunity to know him better IN LIFE which is exactly what he wanted! MJ said it over & over: ” I just want people to understand me & to love me all over the world”. Already this is happening. I have seen a number of interviews where the media have expressed sympathy for the torture MJ had to endure as a child & how this must have impacted his adulthood. What stories did we hear from them before? Plastic surgery? his sex life? his ‘weird’ personal habits? To quote a recent news story, “This is a Michael Jackson that sadly we never knew”. It’s happening, finally. He is getting the “understanding” he NEVER received from people in life. Isn’t this, as fans, what we have been calling for for years? I wish people would stop & think before slamming the rabbi. At least hold your criticism until we see the “fruits” of this labor; which I believe has been one of “love”. As to the allegations of wrong doing on the part of Rabbi Schmuley: Has he been convicted of anything? If not, then aren’t WE doing the same thing to HIM that was done to MJ over the years???

• Monday, October 05, 2009

  THORSHAMMER

  Jana,

  you said, “As I understand it, Michael would become so anxious that he would take anti-anxiety medications(a lot of them) before the speeches & Rabbi Schmuley became very annoyed with this behavior.”

  In all the interviews given by the Rabbi, I have not heard him say once that he saw michael taking anything, but you say above that he was very annoyed with him taking Anti-Anxiety medications, where did you find this info from?

  It makes me sad that this book was released, thinking about the whole scenario, the Rabbi says that he wants the world to stop calling Michael a King, and look at him as a man, but this book, it only shines him in a King status once again.

  I really like the Rabbi, the first time I saw him on Television was Oprah, as a man, i was caught in track to watch him, I believe the things he says about rearing children nowadays, I think he is a good man, but just that, a man. And Men make Mistakes and this book is a vile mistake.

  Michael had other friends that were spiritual, I don’t see them writing books trying to show the world who michael is. I find it comically hearing the tapes where michael says he hates his face, that he feels like a lizard. this is nothing new in the black community, we know Michael Didn’t like his face, it was evident, I feel telling the whole world in a book that he did not like his face when millions of others loved that face is just confusing.

  What is the Rabbi really trying to show the world through Michael Jackson is the real question? Listening to the many shows he has been on, it really looks as if this book is only to promote the family friday night, on Larry King, the Rabbi said,

  “He yearns for parents to take his example seriously, to prioritize their kids, to read them bedtime stories, to sit and have family dinners with them. As I said, I hope the families will sign up at FridaysFamily.com, to give their families just one family dinner a week.”

  and before that he also mentioned:

  “So he always held out this hope—and listen the way he cries when he says that. But he just wanted a day for children where they would have the right to demand attention from their parents—to demand it. And, really, it’s in Michael’s honor that I launched a program called Turn Friday Night Into Family Night, to create that national family dinner where children can say to their parents, turn off your crackberries (ph) and turn off the phones and turn off the—all the other distractions because we’re important, too. Make us feel valuable.”

  In Michael’s honor that this program was launched? but the program was started before Michael’s death…? Every time I hear mention of this friday family night, i just feel the book isn’t really what we see new in michael, because it doesn’t’ t matter what is read or said, the man has been accused twice of pedophiliac and the world still loved him, what i see is the Rabbi promoting his family night under the cloak of Michael’s Demise.

  It’s ironic the Sabbath starts on Friday also and the night for this family thing is on friday too….cmon..and I have NOTHING against the Sabbath or family night, i was raised as a JW also, I can see where this is of value as though I don’t follow the Religion, I do not celebrate holidays still.

  G-D doesn’t like people who use others for their own methods. I know some might think in one’s head, G-D wanted it to come to this, but that can’t be true in this case, as humans, children of G-D, the Universe we know the correct way to go.

  what does this book really bring out?

  1) it makes the Rabbi more popular than he has ever been! IN a good and bad way.

  2) it is a stepping stone to promote the website on family night.

  3)It shows Michael’s father as a very evil man, even though the Rabbi says that he cannot and is not here to judge Joe Jackson he has become a enabler in doing that. He says that Michael called his father and told him he was going to talk to a group of people and tell them he loved his father, that it was him that deserved all the credit for where michael was, still this book or description of Mr. Jackson through tapes shows him as a vile monster. how could the Rabbi honestly think he is not judging the father the same way, though he is trying to promote family harmony…this book does not and will not bring family harmony to the jackson family for years to come, if not affecting Michael’s Children, brothers, and their children. I don’t understand why he did not see this when he brought this out.

  4) If Michael Jackson was alive today, this book would not be on the shelves. Rabbi, you know this, you never would have gone along with this, the proof shows in your disconnection from Michael, or perhaps this is your guilt coming forward by printing something you should and could have down in person for him…do you feel guilty for your failed efforts as a man of G-D who turned his back on a man you knew was dying?

  you said, “BOTEACH: I no longer felt that I could positively influence him. And you only had two choices in Michael’s life. You were either going to be a friend who helped him gain control of a disorderly existence, or a hanger-on, a sycophant. And I said to him, once I really felt that my influence had been neutralized, once so many of the managers had said to him, Shmuley is trying to get you to do lectures about family and to involve yourself in healing the American family; you need to get back to your concerts. You need to get back to making your albums. That’s what you do. Why are you doing these free lectures, when you could be making a lot of money?

  When I understood that I was neutralized, I said to Michael, I’m not going to stay here and clap while you drive your life off a cliff. If you love someone, you have a responsibility to help them. But if they will not allow you to—and I tried everything to—you certainly cannot wait around and watch them self-immolate. “

  A true man of G-D would never give up on him…if you were really his friend, you never would have left him to the vultures, they complained that you were using him for free lectures, but you never said he got rid of you, you left him, and i truly feel as much as i feel love for you as a Teacher, i feel when you found out he was dead, you say you were angry at him, but I think you were angry at yourself because you truly failed him and let the others bury him deeper. This book is a confession of your guilt, something you feel must be done to reconcile what you did not do for Michael…and you could have succeeded…you know you could have, but just like madonna said

  “Most of us had turned our backs on him.”

  Rabbi…you too turned your back on him, if anyone could have helped him in the end it would have been you. you said you wanted him to go back to the witnesses because it grounded him, YOU too Grounded him…in your home, with your family, you were strong medicine for him and you would have succeeded eventually.

  I understand that what you failed to tell him when he was alive (because of your decision to leave him) you try to do now, but you have only hurt him more. Why should we pity him, with all the horror he has said he had in his life, he still came out on top with LOVE..WITH LOVE!

  that was his gift and we all saw it, we didn’t need you to write a book about his confessions to you….see, Rabbi, G-D used Michael as the greatest example of his joy, that chaos always comes back to harmony, he showed that even though this boy was whooped by his father who did it in a loving way, the way he was taught and his father before him, that whooping your children was showing a act of love (no sparing of the rod….hmmm), that through the sex his brothers had in the rooms, the strip clubs they performed in, the things he saw..HE WAS STILL a bundle of joy!! HE IS A MIRACLE because most in those scenarios come out becoming evil…we know this, instead Michael broke the chain of destruction…I hope you put that in the book…I truly hope you did.

  5) Madonna…
  Rabbi, you stated on Larry King this about michael and his respect for women “Michael, in my presence, always expressed profound attraction to women. And I think that there is a magical quality, to use his word, in the way that he describes his relationship with Tatum O’Neal or with Brooke Shields.

  Notice that Michael respects women. He feels that relationships should not be about sex. He feels that there’s something very unique about just holding a woman’s hand. He was a great romantic. But he had been damaged, by his own admission, by the toxic and vulgar images that he had witnessed when he was just a boy of about five, as he describes in the book, when the Jackson Five were performing at strip clubs.

  He was too young to absorb these very adult images. And I think it led him to conclude that women, at times, could use their sexuality to gain control over men and to get things from men. So, it also made him weary and suspicious of women. And Michael shared this in the book, as he wanted parents to understand, be careful what you let your children watch on TV and what you let them do, if it’s too early. KING: And we’ll back up what you just said, the romanticism aside. These tapes reveal a deep suspicion of women. Watch—listen to this excerpt. “

  then later you put the words he said about madonna not being a very good person, but also you say, you believe he thought Madonna would be different when she bore child, this is the thing, when i hear you speak, i hear this hesitation, the kind politicians have on their tongues…his dad was bad, according to michael, but you can’t judge the man, madonna was bad, but you believe Michael thought she would change after bearing children….? why print this stuff if you assume differently, that the man would have thought differently later. you know that people, when people read they only see the bad, they never remember the good, they just don’t this is what makes us imperfect and this is the fault you have made (IMHO) in publishing this book and saying arrogantly on DATELINE, ‘you need to remember I have written 22 books….this will go toward a good cause” Is michael the King or Messiah being crucified by you to bring on a good cause, is he the sacrifice this friday night….I only want to know.

  If he loved and respected women then why is he talking to you about madonna that way, maybe he was pulling your leg most of the time, truly watching to see if you were listening to his contradictions…? One thing I know about Celebrities, they will call out for help in the most silent ways, they will act as if they are pushing you way, but they really want you to stay as close as you can because YOU, who are not a celebrity, YOU who are not a employee kissing there bum, YOU who truly shows a commitment to helping them, are the ONLY one that can help them. They won’t tell you this because in the back of their head, they feel if you know their weakness, the real weakness you will also take advantage of them (and this is what it looks like with this book) like all others they have trusted in the past, because we are human and he knew we were not perfect and perhaps he knew you weren’t either as when he called you out to tell your children you loved them with LOVE…I am sure he knew you would tell the world these things, perhaps he wanted you too though i would be more relieved if i heard him say on a tape that he wanted you to write this if he left this world.

  I can’t believe he would though, because he knew that eventually one day, his children would read it too and one thing about Michael Jackson in ostracizing himself from his own family, he would not have wanted THE SINS OF THE FATHER to pass to his children, but now….well now you have soldered the chain he so tried to break away…don’t you see this…you have given his children NOTHING in this book and they are the only ones that matter, not US, not your family night, just his children.

  If you believed that michael respected women the way you say, you never would have put that stuff in there about Madonna, knowing every person, Male and Female must change when a child’s love comes into their life, she had this in her life and it did change her, but this was a total lynching of her, written in book for all time and we know why Madonna was the one pointed out….one word: ISAAC or linking to this and seeing the title http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/1CS0BMMIYPQIC

  Your heart should stay on a straight line Rabbi and not be influenced by emotion, G-D and he is the same G-D of you and I, he does not like ugly. I hope you think about this as I love you like a brother as the whole world, we must SEE what is truly right and not what our hearts feel is right.

  You have made him more than a King with your book, you know this, you must know this.

  you said,
  “Michael was not a bad person. But he was hopelessly naive.”

  but Michael said he wanted to live as Jesus, the he loved children, that he was loving, that love love love was everything, of course he could never be jewish as he believed in the things he was taught: That Jesus was G-D’s son, as this is what the JW’s believe, and the jewish faith doesn’t. No one was going to take that from his thought process…not that you would have tried, i know you wouldn’t have, but it has to amaze you as Michael was that amazing.

  6)Hitler

  why ask him if he could change HItler? What about Napoleon, The Romans, The spaniards that killed the Moor, Presidents who had Slaves….why Hitler? We know why and its understandable, the problem is, WHY is it so difficult to believe that Michael believed he could change Hitler? Why is it so difficult to believe? Could it be because Michael was taught as Jesus said, “All That I have done, you can do….and MORE” That Michael believed he could change Hitler is nothing surprising of not a Naive man but a man of strong faith, like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego who would not bow to the statue of Nebuchadnezzar, he believed in LOVE and he will be remembered for that, no matter what happened, Michael always brought love in the end, always forgiving. when you heard of his death, as a man of faith, but still one of imperfection, perhaps instead of anger coming from you heart in the guise of mourning for his children, it should have been love my Rabbi. LOVE always comes and always wins first…did you know learn that from him in the two years you spent as his friend?

  as a JW of past, I remember as a boy, hearing the story of the three men I mentioned above, I cannot but think of MJ and his flawlessness in showing that LOVE could win out anything, with that Rabbi, I leave you with the story you so fondly know, that you can remember MJ too, as a man of strength, who taught you something about love and not anger, to let go the fear of evil men like Hitler and embrace love always, only someone like Michael could say and believe he could change Hitler, because michael truly believed in the love of G-D and his Son…and most importantly in the love of US, HIS Children.

  Love to you Rabbi.

  Dan 2:49      
  Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel [sat] in the gate of the king.

  Dan 3:1   ¶   
  Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height [was] threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

  Dan 3:2      
  Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

  
  Dan 3:3      
  Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

  Dan 3:4      
  Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,

  Dan 3:5      
  [That] at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:

  Dan 3:6       And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

  Dan 3:7   ¶  Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down [and] worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

  Dan 3:8   ¶  Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and accused the Jews.

  Dan 3:9       They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live for ever.

  Dan 3:10       Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:

  Dan 3:11       And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, [that] he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

  Dan 3:12       There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

  Dan 3:13   ¶ 
  Then Nebuchadnezzar in [his] rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then they brought these men before the king.

  Dan 3:14      
  Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, [Is it] true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?

  Dan 3:15      
  Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; [well]: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who [is] that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?

  Dan 3:16   ¶ 
  Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we [are] not careful to answer thee in this matter.

  Dan 3:17      
  If it be [so], our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver [us] out of thine hand, O king.

  Dan 3:18      
  But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

  Dan 3:19   ¶ 
  Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: [therefore] he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

  Dan 3:20      
  And he commanded the most mighty men that [were] in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, [and] to cast [them] into the burning fiery furnace.

  Dan 3:21      
  Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their [other] garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

  Dan 3:22      
  Therefore because the king’s commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

  Dan 3:23      
  And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

  Dan 3:24   ¶ 
  Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, [and] spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

  Dan 3:25      
  He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

  Dan 3:26   ¶ 
  Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, [and] spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come [hither]. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.

  Dan 3:27      
  And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king’s counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

  Dan 3:28      
  [Then] Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed [be] the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king’s word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.

  Dan 3:29      
  Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.

  Dan 3:30      
  Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.

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