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Rabbi Shmuley Responds to Richard Dawkins Comparing Him to Hitler
Dear
Richard,
I
am in receipt of your open letter of May 2.
An
ancient Rabbinical teaching says that one should respond to points in the order
in which they are made. And that was my plan until I came across the part of
your letter where you compare my speech at the IdeaCity convention to Hitler and
say he would be proud of me.
Perhaps
it was providence that your letter was posted on your website on World Holocaust
Remembrance Day. Are you really so callous? Have you developed such
uncontrollable loathing to people of faith that you would equate a Rabbi who was
your friend and who hosted you at his home and at so many public forums and
debates to a monster who killed six million Jews and bombed the people of
England mercilessly?
Surely,
you are aware that British academia has become a world epicenter of anti-Israel
and anti-Semitic sentiment. You are familiar, I am sure, with the shameful story
of your colleague, Oxford Pathology Professor Andrew Wilkie, refusing to accept
an Israeli doctoral applicant because he served in the Israeli army, or the
shocking and disgraceful decision by the British Academics Union to bar fellow
Israeli academics from academic conferences in the UK.
And
now you would add to this infamy by comparing me to Hitler? Really Richard, I
mean no disrespect and once knew you to be a very genial and decent man, but
Hitler? Have you lost your mind? Your loathsome comment brings you, Oxford
University, and Charles Simonyi who endowed your chair into disrepute and you
should issue an immediate apology.
Time
for a reality check. The forum of which you speak, The IdeaCity Convention in
Toronto, is one of the world’s leading media forums. They invited us to argue
our ideas about atheism and religion on a stage in which I spoke directly
after you. I sat right next to you.
When you saw me you barely said hello, and then, just before you spoke, you gave
me a card explaining that you would not be staying for my response to your
comments. Amid your casual dismissal of me, I started my presentation by
referring to you as ‘“a true intellectual, a very fine man, and extremely
humble.” I added that we had been friends at Oxford and had debated on religion
and evolution. You claim my rebuttal was “a ranting attack,” yet anyone who
watched the video will see that the audience laughed over a dozen times - go and
count them - during a twenty minute presentation. While you listened to me and
heard Hitler, the celebrated convener of the conference, Moses Znaimer, wrote to
me on July 23, 2007, “With your terrific contribution to [the conference] still
ringing in my ears, I’d like to send you my formal thanks… We’ve had great
feedback about the conference as a whole and you are certainly one of the top
reasons why.” Press reports of my speech which are available online were
similarly laudatory. Indeed, when it was over two Canadian TV companies were so
enamored of my presentation that they approached me to discuss hosting a TV
series. And contrary to your comments that I decided to attack you after I had
learned that you were leaving to the airport, I was actually quite disappointed
that you did not stay, and was relieved to hear from the conference organizers
that you had stood glued to my comments on the outside speaker.
I
consider the speech I gave at IdeaCity to have been a fine rebuttal of your
dismissal of faith and encourage the readers of this open letter to please view
it on YouTube, or my website home page, where it has been available for close to
a year. Perhaps, as a scientist who respects fact over fiction, you too should
have viewed it, Richard, before you decided to take the incomprehensible step of
comparing a Rabbi whom Newsweek just chose as one of the ten most influential in
the United States to Hitler. I am well aware of the fact that you believe
religious people to be “know-nothings,” weak-minded illiterates who require a
myth to get through the travails of life. Some would regard such condescension
as elitist arrogance. You have a right to be egotistical. But you have no right
to compare a Rabbi who refutes your arguments to the most demonic murderer that
ever lived.
As
to your point that the video of the Oxford debate, which you denied ever
happened and which your atheism side lost, is not on my website, please look on
the left-hand column of my home page. Significant portions of the debate have
also been posted on YouTube.
Now,
to respond to your other allegations point by point, you say that you were not
assailing me in your posting. And then, a line later, you say that I was never
affiliated with Oxford University and that I misled attendees at one of my
lectures when I claimed to have debated you. You were attacking and attempting
to discredit me, Richard, so let’s not play games.
The
organization I ran for 11 years at Oxford, the L’Chaim Society, was one of the
largest student organizations in the University’s history, which is why you
agreed to participate in approximately five of our large debates. It was an
official University Society for most of the time I was there, with Dr. Joshua
Silver, your physics colleague from your very own College, New College, serving
as its senior member. As you also know, Richard, far from our organization
simply setting up shop, as you put it, we had a huge impact at the University,
had thousands of student members, regularly hosted large joint events with the
Oxford Union, and hosted some of the most influential people in the world,
including luminaries like Mikhail Gorbachev, Prof. Steven Hawking, and Elie
Wiesel, which is why, I would assume, you were honored to lecture for us on so
many occasions, both in Oxford and in London.
As
to your allegation that I was never the official Rabbi of Oxford University, you
are correct. How could I be, when the University does not recognize any official
chaplain of any religion outside the Church of England? As you know, unlike the
United States where we have separation between Church and State, in England
there is an official state religion and therefore, as it was explained to me
when we sought official chaplaincy status, all the chaplains at the respective
Colleges are Church of England. Indeed, even the huge Catholic chaplaincy, we
were told by University officials, has no official University status and neither
do the Muslims. Indeed, sadly, Jewish
students were not even allowed into the University until 1856, and the first
Jewish dons (lecturers) were not allowed until 1871. This was a subject of
conversation that often passed between me and Sir Isaiah Berlin who was arguably
the first highly visible Jewish don in the University’s history and a dear
friend to me in the time that I was at Oxford.
Indeed,
this kind of religious discrimination against Jews was sadly commonplace in the
UK, where Jews were expelled in 1290 and were not allowed back until Oliver
Crowell welcomed them in 1655. In more modern times, when I first applied to
enter the London Times ‘Preacher of the Year’ competition, we were told it was
open only to Christian clergy. But after I, and a number of other Rabbis,
petitioned to be admitted, the competition was broadened and indeed I won and
became the London Times Preacher of the Year just days before the Millennium in
2000. Perhaps, as a man of liberal ideology, Richard, you will use your
influence at the University to have them recognize an official Jewish chaplain
in due course and I would view this as ample atonement for your outrageous
Hitler comment.
Turning
to your point that Beliefnet, which is only one of the many places where I
publish, advertizes me as the Rabbi of Oxford University, if you look at any of
my official biographies, such as those on my books or on my website, they all
say that I was Rabbi at Oxford
University and indeed, for most of my time there I was the only Rabbi in
residence. Obviously, I cannot be held accountable for what others write about
me. But let me use your attack against me to share with you a famous teaching of
the ancient Rabbis: always do your best to judge people favorably, trying to
find merit rather than jumping to negative conclusions. You yourself have been
strongly criticized for what others see as an attempt to conceal the true nature
of your professorship at Oxford, the details of which remain unclear. Many
publications refer to you as ‘Professor’ Richard Dawkins, even though, as your
critics maintain, leading Universities regularly deny to any Professor who
played a role in acquiring the funding for their own chair the use of the title.
Your critics may be wrong here, Richard, but they cite the fact that the
Oxford
University Hebdomadal Council Decree of 6 November 1995, establishing the
Charles Simonyi Professorship, says that you hold a “post” rather than a
“professorship.” They write that since your post was endowed by Charles Simonyi
and the terms of the gift allowed you to bypass the peer review promotion
process customarily required for a professorship, it will become a
“professorship” only when a subsequent beneficiary is promoted to the position
based on a peer review election process, which, they maintain, was not conducted
for your receipt of the post. Now, you defended yourself in a posting on your
website, dated Sept. 28, 2006, and wrote that you
were “elected to the Charles Simonyi Professorship.” But that does seem to
directly contradict the Hebdamadol Council decree cited above which expressly
says “Notwithstanding
the provisions of Ch. VII, Sect. III (which discuss the election of a professor
to the post), the income from the endowment shall be applied in the first
instance to fund a post in the Public Understanding of Science to be held by Dr
C.R. Dawkins, Fellow of New College.” It seems, so your critics contend, that
your appointment was a condition of the grant rather than the product of an
election, and since it may be that you are falsely maligned in the matter, your
clarification as to the
true nature of your professorship, whose official location is the Museum of
Natural History, is welcomed.
Now,
I
don’t expect our readership to understand all the vagaries of official Oxford
accreditation, which seems murky enough. But I raise this point to tell you
that, before you go and launch an unprovoked attack against me and my role at
Oxford, you should practice what the sage Hillel taught and treat others the way
you yourself want to be treated. You don’t want people questioning your right
to use the title ‘Professor.’ So give
others the benefit of the doubt just as you wish the same to be done for you. As
public figures, much is written about both of us over which we have little
control.
So
here we are. You and I did debate. You lost that debate, which is no big deal
because, as we both know, debates are more about entertainment than serious
scholarship and, as we Americans have seen in our presidential primaries, one
day Hillary Clinton will win a debate, and the next day Barack Obama will. I
take no pride in saying you lost, and indeed, until you denied that the debate
ever took place, I had not before harped on the outcome.
Unlike
you, I see no deep fissure between science and religion. The Biblical story of
creation relates that a supreme intelligence gave rise to the world in a manner
that would easily accord with evolution, beginning with inanimate matter and
slowly ascending through the vegetable, animal, and human spheres. What perhaps
separates us is that you believe all this happened through random mutation and
natural selection, and I instead focus on the mathematical improbability of such
complex life ever arising spontaneously and without guidance.
Since
we were once friends, and since we both have a responsibility to act justly and
humanely, I propose a follow-up to our debate, either here in the United States
or in the UK, to focus on your recent book on atheism and whether G-d is
necessary for morality. Since, in your letter, you mention my “lamentable but
vocally confident ignorance of Darwinian evolution,” no doubt you will make
mincemeat of me and even the score. I would appreciate if you would propose
dates that are suitable. When we meet face-to-face, you will find in me someone
who wishes to rekindle our friendship, and who, well before the Toronto debate,
contacted you many times to meet up when I visited the UK but received no
response.
Finally,
as to your comment that “gone was the urbane, humorous, polite Shmuley that I
had known at Oxford,” if I have given offense to you in any way, I apologize.
But may I ask you, Richard, to please reflect on whether or not it is you who in truth who has changed in the
intervening years since we were close in Oxford in your posture toward religion
and religious people. Despite your many rants against religion, especially since
the publication of your book, I have never attacked you and certainly have never
compared you to Hitler. It seems you have become aggressive and intolerant,
dismissing people of faith as “fundamentalist hypocrites,” “hillbillies,”
“vulnerable to subversion,” and “suffering from a delusion.” Of the
distinguished Keith Ward, Oxford’s Regius Professor of Divinity and my partner
in the debate against you, you wrote to a national newspaper, as he details in
an upcoming book, that
he should resign since Theology is not a subject.
Now
Richard, if you can dish it out, you have to be prepared for us religious boobs
to defend our pitiful selves when attacked. And the correct response is not to
accuse us of being Hitler when we bring intelligent rejoinders. Rather, I would
advise you to behave scientifically and to respond to us on the merits of our
arguments. Indeed, I welcome a strong critique of religion and believe that it
must always, as Maimonides put it so beautifully, ‘embrace the truth regardless
of its source.”
As
I have always written and maintained, especially in my book “Moses of Oxford”
where you are discussed at length, I respect you and wish to be your friend. But
please refrain from ever again trivializing the deaths of six million Jews and
hundreds of thousands of your brave countrymen by comparing those who disagree
with you to Hitler.
I
wish you and Lala G-d’s blessings and hope to see you soon.
Sincerely,
Rabbi
Shmuley Boteach
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