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Monday, February 15, 2010
Was Haiti Punished for Sin?
Last week I was honored to speak to the Jewish community of Venice at the Chabad House, which hosts thousands for Shabbos meals, and to the extremely warm and welcoming main community. Having just returned from Haiti, I addressed the issue of why a good G-d allows the innocent to suffer. I was amazed when an observant Jew approached me to say that the people of Haiti were not innocent, immersed as they are in idol-worship. ‘Surely you don’t mean to say that the morgue filled with the babies that I witnessed, the stench so bad that I was gagging, deserved to die? Or that the discarded bodies I saw being eaten by dogs deserved their fate?’ His response: The people of Haiti as a whole were punished. A similar sentiment had earlier been voiced by the Rev. Pat Robertson on The 700 Club.
I have always been puzzled as to why many religious people enjoy portraying G-d as executioner-in-chief and are always finding reasons to justify human suffering.
The holocaust produced two camps of Jews. Many decided that the Jews had been punished for intermarriage and wanting to be secular. But others had a much more Jewish response. They rejected any theological justification or self-blame and set to work even harder toward the creation of a Jewish state where Jews would find refuge and build an army to prevent another genocide. The appropriate response to death is always life. And the Jewish response to suffering is to demand that G-d put an end to it.
So many people search for a reason why people suffer. They want to redeem tragedy by giving it meaning. Suffering ennobles the spirit, they say. It makes you more mature. It helps you focus on what’s important in life.
I would argue that suffering has no purpose, no redeeming qualities, and any attempts to infuse it with rich significance are deeply misguided.
Of course suffering can lead ultimately to a positive outcome. The rich man who had contempt for the poor and suddenly loses his money can become more empathetic when he himself struggles. The arrogant executive who treats her subordinates like dirt can soften when she is told that she G-d forbid has breast cancer. But does it have to come about this way? Is suffering the only way to learn goodness?
Jewish values maintain that there is no good that comes from suffering that could not have come through a more blessed means. Some people win the lottery and are so humbled that they dedicate a huge portion to charity. A rock star like Bono becomes rich and famous and consecrates his celebrity to the relief of poverty. Yes, the holocaust led directly to the creation of the State of Israel. But there are plenty of nations who came into existence without being preceded by gas chambers.
Here is another way that Jewish values are so strongly distinguished from other values systems. Many religions believes that suffering is redemptive. In Christianity, the suffering servant, the crucified Christ, brings atonement for the sins of mankind through his own torment. The message: No suffering, no redemption. Someone has to die so that the sins of mankind are erased. Suffering is therefore extolled in the New Testament: “And not only that, but we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope.” (Romans) Again, “If we are being afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation; if we are being consoled, it is for your consolation, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we are also suffering.” (Corinthians) Indeed, Paul even made suffering an obligation, encouraging the fledging Christians to “share in suffering like a good soldier of Christ Jesus.”
But Judaism, in prophesying a perfect Messianic future where there is no death or pain ultimately rejects the suffering-is-redemptive narrative. Suffering isn’t a blessing, it’s a curse. Jews are obligated to alleviate all human misery. Suffering leaves you bitter rather than blessed, scarred rather than humble. Few endure suffering without serious and lasting trauma. Suffering leads to a tortured spirit and a pessimistic outlook. It scars our psyches and creates a cynical consciousness, devoid and bereft of hope. Suffering causes us to dig out the insincerity in the hearts of our fellows and to be envious of other people’s happiness. If individuals do become better people as a result of their suffering, it is despite the fact that they suffered, not because of it. Ennoblement of character comes through triumph over suffering rather than its endurance.
Speak to a Holocaust survivor like Elie Wiesel and ask them what they gathered from their suffering, aside from loneliness, heartbreak, and outrage. To be sure, they also learned the value of life and the sublime quality of human companionship. Wiesel is an incredibly profound man. But these lessons, this depth, could easily have been learned through life-affirming experiences that do not leave all of one’s relatives as ash.
I believe that my parents’ divorce drove me to a deeper understanding of life and a greater embrace of religion. Yet, I know people who have led completely privileged lives and have far deeper philosophies of life and are even more devoted to their religion than me. And they have the advantage of not being bitter, cynical, or pessimistic the way I can sometimes be because of the pain of my early childhood.
When I served for eleven years as Rabbi at Oxford University I noticed that the college students I knew who were raised in homes in which their parents gave them huge amounts of love and attention were the most healthy and balanced of all. They were usually also the best students. Those who were demeaned by their parents could also be positive and loving, but a Herculean effort was first needed to undo the scarring inflicted upon them by parental neglect. Whatever good we as individuals, or the world in general, receives from suffering can be brought about in a painless, joyful manner. And it behooves people of faith especially to once-and-for-all cease justifying the death of innocents and instead rush to comfort and aid the survivors.
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach’s new book on Jewish values, Renewal: A Guide to the Values-Filled Life, will be published in April by Basic Books. His trip to Haiti can be viewed at http://www.shmuley.com.
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Monday, February 15, 2010
caliah
Rabbi Boteach: “Few endure suffering without serious and lasting trauma. Suffering leads to a tortured spirit and a pessimistic outlook. It scars our psyches and creates a cynical consciousness, devoid and bereft of hope. Suffering causes us to dig out the insincerity in the hearts of our fellows and to be envious of other people’s happiness.”
That is a psychological view of suffering not a Biblical one, Shumuly. If the people of Haiti seem to believe themselves that the outcome of the quake may have had something to do with divine retribution, why can’t you? If they want to turn away from paganism and Voodoo, what is the problem with that? The Bible speaks clearly and extensively against diviners, sorcerers and other pagan practitioners. I can see why the Voodoo leaders wouldn’t want the Haitian people to become SEPARATE and sanctified from these practices but WHY DON’T YOU?
When the LORD loves (‘He disciplines those whom He loves’) people He breaks them from their self reliance.
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Monday, February 15, 2010
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1Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (Luke 13:1-5, NIV)
“Nobody gets out of here alive”- Jim Morrison
Good luck, Rabbi Shmuley, if you seek to comfort those who suffer by utilizing your human strength alone.
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Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Aaron Solomon Adelman
Apparently I’m not the only one to have read Job.
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Monday, February 22, 2010
sherry
Hello Rebbe.
This is why I have been wondering 4 a long time now why would God put the Tree of Good & Evil in the Garden? God knew man would sin & all the terrible things that were going 2 happen from then on even the earthquake which hit Haiti. My heart goes out 2 them especially the children. Praise God 4 all the nations helping them. So, why not just destroy satan & his rebellious messengers. I know I have been taught wrong on this & I have rejected that God didn’t want robots etc. It was perfect so leave it alone. Why would I want 2 follow a dysfunctional, abusive-demanding God. Makes no sense. If u truly luv some1 u do not test them there would b no pt. I guess what I am saying is it is God’s fault he put that stinkin tree there-instead just should of had the Tree of Life by itself.
As 4 God striking Haiti all the nations r sinful including us here in the US. So I don’t know why the third world countries get hit so hard with natural disasters. All I can say is I was very happy when the help from the nations were able 2 get 2 them & now continue 2 help them. -
Sunday, February 28, 2010
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The sun revolves around the flat earth bronze age slave-owner manual bible creation myth has Eve being punished by her creator for being tempted by knowledge.
This bible is filled with punishment by this bronze age creator, starting with the first creations - Adam and Eve. The first offspring kills his brother, because this creator rejects him.
Forty years Jews wander in the desert, more suffering and punishment by this vengeful creator.
History is filled with this creator punishing and causing pain and suffering.
But who wrote all these myths down? Kings, who wanted to scare their followers into submission.
Rabbi you quote the schizophrenic Saul aka Paul, who aided and abetted the First Solution by Constantine to annihilate the Jews - by blaming the Jews for the death of the mythical Jesus - and letting a Jew (Saul) put the blame on the Jews.
This creator story has been used for centuries to justify and rationalize suffering. Jews were blamed for the bubonic plague. Now voodoo is blamed for the earthquake in Haiti. Who will be blamed for the earthquake in Chile?
Instead of giving into the bronze age creation myth that being tempted by knowledge is a sin that will anger a creator who will cause you to suffer, seek knowledge and let your brain evolve beyond the bronze age.
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